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Speaker 0 (0s): <inaudible> welcome to the force. Five podcast, a show where I challenged my guests to come up with a movie themed five lists. And then we talk about those lists on air. I'm your host Kleeberg. And today my guest is Tots Galvis. Hey tots. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm good. 

Tell me a little bit about who you are. 

Speaker 1 (39s): I mean, pretty basic, you know, I work and like everyone knows, I love my dogs, my family, but mostly my dogs. That's like the big one that everyone knows. 

Speaker 0 (51s): Yes, of course. And how many dogs do you have? 

Speaker 1 (55s): I have two, but a third, every like two days. My brother's dog. 

Speaker 0 (1m 2s): And I know a couple of them are shepherds. 

Speaker 1 (1m 6s): Yeah, my dog. And then my brother's dog. 

Speaker 0 (1m 9s): And what's the third dog. 

Speaker 1 (1m 11s): She's a Maltese poodle. She's a little one. 

Speaker 0 (1m 15s): That's awesome. I got you on here to talk about a list that I think is really fun. Tell us about the five list that you chose for today's show. 

Speaker 1 (1m 26s): Yeah, so, because I'm a creep, I chose five scary scenes from horror movies, 

Speaker 0 (1m 32s): Five scary scenes. I was, I knew that somebody would pick this eventually. I didn't know. It would be like so soon, but I was stoked to like do research on this list. Some of the lists that people choose, I don't have to do much research because I've like, they just popped into my head, but this was one where I wanted to go back and see the scenes again, to really make sure that they still scared me and everything on my list still scares me. 

Speaker 1 (2m 1s): Yeah, no same. I mean, I didn't go back and watch because some of these I've watched recently, but like two of them, I don't need to watch because I already know they're still going to scare me. 

Speaker 0 (2m 11s): It was fun doing the research for this list. And I'm really excited to hear what you came up with and then share some cool stuff that I came up with as well. Now, before we get to that, I want to talk about some things we have been watching lately. So I'll start with one thing that I've been watching. I watched a short movie on YouTube called the cautionary tales from 2018. Cautionary tales is it's not a big time sink. 

It's like seven minutes long. And it's really interesting. The, the frame up in the very first scene, it's this guy sitting on a bench and he's got like a deformed mouth. His mouth almost looks like, do you, are you familiar with those like movies? Like the Wallace and Gromit movies? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So his, his mouth kind of looks like that. Dude's mouth. Yeah. It's like at first kind of like, obviously it's supposed to be like horrific and you follow him to this group. 

And it's kind of like one of those therapy groups for people with these kind of odd deformities. And it's his first time there, but you learn some things along the way. And then at the end, like the end credits is where the big, like twist comes, it's called the cautionary tales. You can find it on YouTube. Like I said, it's really short. So it doesn't take up a huge, yeah, it doesn't take up a huge amount of time, but definitely well worth the watch. 

And yeah, I really liked that. Tell me about something that you've been watching. 

Speaker 1 (3m 56s): So YouTube I've been binging, this girl Bailey Syrian. She, I love true crime. So she'll do true crime cases and she's doing her makeup at the same time. So I've binged like 60 of her videos cut up. Yup. I've been, I've had a problem. And then I'm watching a YouTuber play the last of us part two, which is no that's okay. 

Speaker 0 (4m 25s): Do you play PS4? 

Speaker 1 (4m 28s): That's the thing I don't, but I like watching this one guy play his name's the rod, Brad, but he's pretty funny with his commentary. And I like most of the horror games he plays, 

Speaker 0 (4m 39s): I have played through the first one, but I have not yet to pick up the second one. 

Speaker 1 (4m 44s): Yeah, the story's a little, it's a little, it's not, not as good as the first one, but I feel like you still should, you know, play, see what you think of it. 

Speaker 0 (4m 54s): Interesting. I've never run into somebody who watches game streams, but doesn't also play games. 

Speaker 1 (5m 1s): I know I'm a weird human. 

Speaker 0 (5m 5s): The other girl that you mentioned that the true crime stuff. So does she put one out like once a week it would like what's the release schedule, 

Speaker 1 (5m 11s): So, okay. It's murder, mystery and makeup Monday. So every Monday she'll post a video and her commentary. She's a one. I love her. 

Speaker 0 (5m 22s): The what's the best episode. Like if you were to recommend one episode for me to start with, Oh my God. There's so many, I'm doing my makeup right now, by the way, while I'm talking to, 

Speaker 1 (5m 35s): Have you heard of Edmund? Kemper? 

Speaker 0 (5m 37s): Yeah, I know of him because of the show. Mind hunters. 

Speaker 1 (5m 41s): Okay. So, Oh yeah, me too. But I've listened to podcasts about him, but she does a video on him and her commentaries. She's just, she's really funny. And then, or this one's a little, it's a little more gross 

Speaker 0 (5m 59s): And the way he would kill people, but the toy box killer. That's another good episode of hers. So I watched two road trip movies, I guess you'd call them like on the road movies. And just by coincidence, I watched these kinds of intro. The first movie I watched is called a perfect world is from 1993. 

Speaker 2 (6m 23s): I mean, you got a lot in common Philip. Both of us is handsome devil, both Lagasse Cola. Neither one of us got old man worth of damn eight year old. Phillip Perry has just been taken hostage. Are you going to fight the most dangerous man in West Texas? Put the gun down old timer, go and hit me anyway. Probably shoot the boy hitting the car. Fellas could be John. 

His lucky day that rock car complicating law enforcement attempts to apprehend him Haines, his belief to have an eight year old with him as hostage. This is not a painless scape situation. This happens to be a man you'll fill up. You have American right eat cotton candy, roller coasters. You got a phone go inside, lie down to we're gone. 

Speaker 0 (7m 22s): The basic plot of perfect world is you've got these two convicts that break out of prison. This it's set in like the sixties, late fifties, early sixties. You've got these convicts. They break out of prison and they go into this small neighborhood to try and get a different car. And in that neighborhood, they run into some trouble and they take a kid hostage. So they it's. Now it's the three of them on the road. You've got one of these convicts played by Kevin Costner and he plays kind of like this more laid back criminal. 

And then you have another criminal that's more psychotic. And then you have the little boy who's like between eight and 10, somewhere in there. And it becomes this really kind of cool story where the kid who's younger. He hasn't really grown up with a father and Kevin Costner through this journey kind of becomes like a father figure to him. It's a great relationship on screen. And it reminds you of why Kevin Costner was a big deal in the nineties. To me, Kevin Costner hasn't really done anything great in a long time, but he was really good in this. 

This is one of those movies. When I watched it, it was, I couldn't help, but think this would really benefit from a remake. I normally don't like remakes, but this movie could really benefit from a remake, but there's a lot of good actors there is. So if you're looking at it right now, do you see how terrible the poster looks? Yeah, it's really dated. It looks so bad. And even for an early nineties poster, the poster is terrible. And I think that's probably why I didn't watch it sooner. 

Yeah. It just looks like they just Photoshop them into the picture. It's so bad. This one though, like I said, Kevin, Costner's in their Clint Eastwood stars as the police officer, that's tracking them to try and take them down. He also directed it. Of course. Yes. Now the whole police thing, there's, there's this gang of police on their tail led by Clint Eastwood also in the trailer is Laura Dern. Who's like a prison psychologist and I love Lord nurse. And she was just the second best movie. 

Yeah. Unfortunately that whole law enforcement side of the movie is really kind of boring and they didn't really have that much to do so. I, I didn't like love the movie, but I really did love it when it was only Kevin Costner and the boy on screen. Yeah. I think that'd be interesting to watch just the relationship. The, the other drawback I think is that the child actor in the movie is a really bad actor. 

Definitely could benefit from a remake, but it's really, you know, it's a, it's a solid movie to watch that you can find that right now on HBO, max, adding that to the list. It's kind of long too. It's like two hours and change. That was like a 12 hour day for me. Oh, you wash it all on the same day. I did. I did. They just announced that they were coming out with the 4k versions of all of those quality ever. 

They'd really just spent like $120 to get all three Lord of the rings and the Hobbit all in one box. And now I could get it in four K. Oh, well, second thing I've been watching. The second movie I've been watching is a movie from 1991 called Motorama 

Speaker 3 (11m 11s): The open road. It calls to everyone, but it's no place to kid around. Isn't your ordinary kid. He knows our man has to go feed a kid where a man has to go. I play mode around, spell out mud around grand prize. 500 <inaudible> 

Speaker 0 (11m 44s): So you need to look up the poster on this one. Okay. I feel like I've heard of it, but I don't know if I've watched it. I would be super shocked if you have of this movie. 

Speaker 1 (11m 54s): Oh, that poster is awful. Yeah. So the poster looks 

Speaker 0 (12m 1s): Really bonkers and the entire movie is insane. So like when you see this poster for motor Rama, what kind of movie do you think it's going to be like, just looking at the poster. 

Speaker 1 (12m 13s): It just looks to me like some cheesy movie. Let me, let me start off with the reason I chose it. 

Speaker 0 (12m 18s): I chose this movie cause I was by myself and I was folding laundry when most great Amazon prime decisions get made. I saw this like, as I was flipping through stuff and with a two year old, pretty much everything I watch is cartoon stuff. Yeah. But my kids getting really into cars. So I was, I saw this and it's like, well, this looks like it might be a cool thing that he might pay attention to. 

It's got a kid, it's got cars, I'll put it on. And you know, if it's not good, then I won't watch it when he's around. Yeah. It's a good thing that I did not watch it while he was around because he will be is fucking off the rails. 

Speaker 1 (13m 5s): Oh, well I just read the first part of the plot. That's already enough. 

Speaker 0 (13m 12s): The plot as it's listed on I MDB is that this kid runs away from abusive. Parents steals a Mustang, and then he essentially drives around to these different gas stations to play this like promotional scratch off card game, like a, almost like, like a monopoly game from McDonald's like one of those type of games. I know that that first sentence says he runs away from his abusive parents. They don't ever show the parents on screen. You just hear in the background, like you hear them arguing. 

Well, he's, he's like working on this woodshop project and you hear them arguing in the background. And then you find out that what he's been making in the wood shop or these like stilts. So he can drive a car. Cause his feet don't reach the pedals. 

Speaker 1 (14m 2s): This movie sounds crazy. 

Speaker 0 (14m 5s): Now it only gets weirder from there. So like the first gas station that he goes to, he meets the first of these incredibly bizarre characters. That number one, don't seem to realize that he's 10. Like everybody treats this kid. Like he's an adult for some reason when he looks 10 and like, okay, this first guy that he meets at the gas station, he's flying a kite in the air. And it turns out that he has his face on the kite and he's trying to make it go as high as possible. 

So God can see his face on the kite. And you know, like I said, I'm folding laundry. I'm not really paying a hundred percent attention. And then this kid out of nowhere says I'm 10 fucking. 

Speaker 1 (14m 51s): And then I said, okay, 

Speaker 0 (14m 52s): I guess this isn't for kids. And I'm starting to pay a bit more attention drew Barrymore's on the, on the cover, like a young Morris on the cover. But she's in the movie for maybe like 10 seconds. Yeah. It's this movie is wild. Like if you're looking, if you take mushrooms and watch this movie, you're probably in for some weird shit, 

Speaker 1 (15m 19s): Honestly, just seeing some of the like stills from the movie, it just seems real weird. 

Speaker 0 (15m 25s): Oh, it's, it's like a fever dream. Everybody. They don't even pay with like American money. They pay with money from the Netherlands. Everything is so weird. It's almost like it's a dream, but yeah, it's, that's a motor Rama 1991. It's really hard to recommend Motorama. To be honest. 

Speaker 1 (15m 47s): I don't know if I'm going to, I don't think I'm gonna add that to the list. 

Speaker 0 (15m 49s): It is pretty rough. 

Speaker 1 (15m 52s): Yeah. It sounds a little, it sounds a little off to me. I'll skip that one. 

Speaker 0 (15m 57s): Yeah. So that's what I've been watching. Do you have anything else you've been watching? 

Speaker 1 (16m 3s): I binged Waco on Netflix. That was really interesting. Like before, or like towards the start of quarantine, I started watching the outsiders, that HBO series they did based on that Stephen King book. 

Speaker 3 (16m 26s): Sorry, sorry. Sorry. No, no, no. You need to go. I'm just baffled by this conflicting evidence. As you are Jerry murdered, a child, everything he does after that is like, he's begging us to catch it. What kind of criminal does that? He didn't do it. 

Speaker 1 (16m 58s): The evidence and the camera evidence. I'm struggling with that. 

Speaker 3 (17m 2s): Where are you going with? All of this is the Tony Maitland 70 miles away. The same day. The same time as Frankie Peterson was murdered 

Speaker 1 (17m 12s): Being cannot exist in two realities at the same time. 

Speaker 3 (17m 18s): I didn't kill that kid. Ralph, let's talk about the outsider. I watched it. 

Speaker 1 (17m 26s): I liked it. Some creature comes to earth I guess, or was already on earth and inhabits a different person. Like they it's like a clone. Like they clone themselves into that person and commit crimes. And then that the original person, they get in trouble for it and they go to prison. It's just, it's a pretty crazy show. 

Speaker 0 (17m 50s): Like you said, you've got this thing and we don't really know what this thing is, but it transfers from body to body via scratching you. Oh, that's right. And then it turns into whatever that thing is and yeah, it just, it kind of keeps feeding off of different things. 

Speaker 1 (18m 14s): Yeah. It's bizarre. 

Speaker 0 (18m 17s): Yeah. It's it's shot really well. I personally, again, without giving anything away, I thought it started way better than it ended. 

Speaker 1 (18m 27s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 0 (18m 29s): Disappointed with the ending. Like I was, 

Speaker 1 (18m 31s): I was hoping it would, it would have been a more satisfying ending. I feel like the ending was kind of rushed. 

Speaker 0 (18m 40s): It felt like it, it definitely felt like it, there is a scene near the end of the series where there's a shootout that I thought was pretty awesome. 

Speaker 1 (18m 50s): That was cool. That was the one good part about those last, I don't know if it was the last episode or second to last episode and that was good. 

Speaker 0 (18m 59s): That's the outsider. You can find that on HBO. A Waco. So I haven't seen Waco. I know that it has Michael Shannon in there. Tell me about Waco. 

Speaker 1 (19m 10s): That was a good one. So basically it's just kind of covering this. They didn't call themselves a cult, but they were a cult and they had guns. And so the FBI knew and they, they held a siege on them and it ended in bloodshed and there was a, it was like a negotiate hostage negotiation type of deal for, I don't know if it was like, it was 40, 40 something days and it didn't end very well for the Colt numbers. 

But I read this book called stalling for time and that's based on the negotiator. And he wrote that book and he went into detail with a ton of different cases, but he was a hostage negotiator for the FBI. And that book was really interesting, but the show I would 10 out of 10 recommend Michael Shannon is a negotiator. 

Speaker 0 (20m 21s): And then Taylor kitsch is in there as well. 

Speaker 1 (20m 24s): Yeah. He's David Koresh. He's the cult leader. 

Speaker 0 (20m 29s): Yeah. And like you said, true story happened in 1993. Something like that. 

Speaker 1 (20m 35s): Yeah. So I mean, I mean, what I am DB says is the FBI and ATF sees religious leader. David Koresh's branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas. It's pretty messed up though. The way they handled it. 

Speaker 0 (20m 53s): Yeah. You're the second person to recommend this one to me. So I'm, I'm looking forward to checking this out. 

Speaker 1 (20m 59s): No, I would, I would, I have another book on Waco. One of the survivors. I haven't read it yet. Cause right now I'm busy reading Salem's lot. 

Speaker 0 (21m 12s): Oh, have you ever read that before? 

Speaker 1 (21m 14s): No, I literally, before this I'd just finished Lord of the rings, all three of them. And then I read that stalling for time. 

Speaker 0 (21m 25s): Very cool. How are you enjoying Salem's lot so far. 

Speaker 1 (21m 28s): I like it. It's creepy. 

Speaker 0 (21m 29s): Yeah. Old Stephen King is, I mean, most of Stephen King is awesome, but old Stephen King, especially. 

Speaker 1 (21m 35s): Yeah. I have it on my list also. 

Speaker 0 (21m 38s): You know, if you've never read the book and need full things, you should give that a spin too. Super good. They made a really bad movie out of it, but it is a very awesome book. 

Speaker 1 (21m 50s): Yeah. I saw they did like a TV series for Salem's lot, but I'm not going to watch that because it looked pretty bad just from the pictures. Yeah. They did like a mini series on TV with Raul blow and then the 1979 series they did. And then in 1987 returned to Salem's lot 

Speaker 0 (22m 14s): Salem slot. That's another one that pro probably have a remake at some point 

Speaker 1 (22m 18s): They should do that. They already made it. They did well, it's not a remake, but doctor sleep so they could, they should do that. That would be a good movie. 

Speaker 0 (22m 29s): So let me ask you this. Do you have any Stephen King movies on your list? 

Speaker 1 (22m 35s): Yeah, I have to. Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah. I love his movies. 

Speaker 0 (22m 41s): Well, let's get to the list. So like I said, I forced my guests to come up with a five list. They choose that list. The only rule is that they can't pick top five movies of all time. You chose five scary scenes. So why did you choose this list? 

Speaker 1 (23m 2s): Well, I just love horror movies, so I figured that'd be something fun to take a look at the scenes that freaked me out the most or just, I just really liked. 

Speaker 0 (23m 14s): Why do you love horror movies? 

Speaker 1 (23m 18s): That's a great question. I think that just, I don't know. Maybe I just like to be scared, but I don't know. I like, I like creepy movies and things, I guess. You know, all my friends know I'm a little bit weird 

Speaker 0 (23m 35s): When you like, what's your ideal situation for watching a horror movie? Is it with like a packed crowd? Is it with some friends in the dark, at the house? Is it by yourself? Like what's your ideal horror movie experience? 

Speaker 1 (23m 51s): I mean, I like watching horror movies with friends, but realistically I'm normally by myself in my room in the dark. 

Speaker 0 (24m 0s): Got it. So you can cover up. 

Speaker 1 (24m 2s): Yeah. 

Speaker 0 (24m 4s): I really like horror movies too. I didn't start loving horror movies until probably 10 years ago, which is kind of weird. Like I didn't grow up in a house where horror was a movie genre that we rented. Where were your parents? Those are the ones that rented the horror movies. 

Speaker 1 (24m 23s): Oh yeah. I mean, they don't like horror movies now, but I still do, but they introduced me to a few, not only one on my list, but that one, 

Speaker 0 (24m 34s): So yeah, I was in, I was, well, I'm a lot older than you. And so when my parents would go to a blockbuster, which I don't know if you ever got the chance to go into a blockbuster. 

Speaker 1 (24m 46s): Yes. I don't remember blockbuster. 

Speaker 0 (24m 48s): So, you know, my, my parents would go to a blockbuster and just come back with whatever the video store clerk recommended to them. And it was never horror. So like I didn't start getting into horror until later in life. And yeah, let's get to this list. So like I said, my list criteria was like stuff that still scared me today. And I think here's a, you said the same thing about yours. So first one is from 2002 and this is a movie called the I, you trust your eyes. 

You rely on your senses. You think you're alone. You'll never be sure again, there is more to fear and you can see how can you trust that they are real, it was remade with Jessica Alba for the U S in like 2008. 

And the remake was terrible. 

Speaker 1 (26m 13s): That's definitely, 

Speaker 0 (26m 15s): It was the original though was it was a pretty good movie with some really genuine scares. The basic plot of the eye is that you have this girl who's been blind since she was two years old and now she's 20 and she has an eye transplant. And so she can finally see after 18 years, unfortunately the eyes that have been given to her, she can see it's almost like a sixth sense type of thing, but she can see things that are about to happen that are, that are evil. 

And there's a particular scene with elevators. And I don't want to give too much away. It's kind of hard with a list like this and not to give some things away, but there's a scene with an elevator and this girl standing in front of the elevator and the elevator doors open, and there's a man standing in the corner looking the other direction and she doesn't want to get in this elevator. And then this other couple gets into the elevator and the doors close. And she looks up at the security cameras and she sees just the two people in there and the man's gone. 

And then she gets into the next elevator. And as soon as the doors close, the man's behind her again. Oh no. And he turns around and his face is not all there. And he starts slowly coming to her from the back of the elevator, to her at the doors. But he's not walking. His feet are just floating about an inch off the ground and the doors open and it gets wild. 

It's super worth watching the eye. But even if you don't watch the full movie, just to watch that scene on YouTube and it real probably terrify you. 

Speaker 1 (28m 10s): This is the one from 2002. 

Speaker 0 (28m 12s): Yeah. It's the I from 2002. 

Speaker 1 (28m 14s): Okay. I did watch the one with Jessica Alba. It didn't, it wasn't remarkable for me to remember it. Cause I forgot about it. 

Speaker 0 (28m 22s): Yeah. The, the remake was really bad as a lot of remakes are. Yeah. During the mid two thousands, there were a bunch of like remix of foreign horror movies. Like the grudge, the ring was one of those. 

Speaker 1 (28m 37s): Their English is awful. It's that girl scared me. 

Speaker 0 (28m 42s): Oh yeah. The ring may come up on my list in a little while. 

Speaker 1 (28m 45s): I was going to say the grudge might be on my list too. 

Speaker 0 (28m 50s): All right. What's your number five. 

Speaker 1 (28m 53s): Alright. So my first one and I feel like most people find this scary, but the 1973 Exorcist, 

Speaker 3 (29m 13s): Somewhere between science and the superstition, there is another world. Nobody expected it. Nobody believed it. Good stuff. 

Speaker 1 (29m 46s): I'm pretty sure everyone has been horrified by this scene when they're trying to exercise the demons. And she's the little girl is vomiting, her heads twisting and just crawling. It's just that whole entire scene terrorized me. 

Speaker 0 (30m 3s): How old were you when you watched the Exorcist? 

Speaker 1 (30m 7s): That's what's bad. I think I was, I don't know how old I was. I know I was young. Maybe like I'll guesstimate, maybe like eight or 10, but I was young. Yeah. Yeah. That one got me. Just like, thinking about that scene. It makes me cringe. 

Speaker 0 (30m 28s): Yeah. That scene is horrific. The scene that stands out to me still from the Exorcist and this actually almost made my list was the spider walk down the stairs, 

Speaker 1 (30m 38s): Stop. I'm old. I'm cringing. And just thinking about it. It makes me so uncomfortable. 

Speaker 0 (30m 45s): Yeah. This masterclass in horror. 

Speaker 1 (30m 50s): Yeah. That's a classic everyone. I'm pretty sure everyone was horrified by at least one scene from that movie. If not all of them. 

Speaker 0 (30m 58s): Yup. And you know, if you're one of those rare people that hasn't seen the Exorcist, if you like horror, you have to see the Exorcist. The basic story is that you have this 12 year old that's possessed and the mother brings into priests to try and exercise the demon and yeah. Things get crazy. 

Speaker 1 (31m 18s): Yeah. No, those demon possession movies always freak me out for too much. 

Speaker 0 (31m 26s): My number four, I didn't do these in any particular order. So I'm just going to bring up the one I talked about a second ago and that's the ring, right? 

Speaker 3 (31m 43s): <inaudible> 

Speaker 0 (32m 3s): So ring from the ring from 2002, starring Naomi Watts. The ring is the ring is really one of the first horror movies that I saw in a theater. I mean like the first like pure horror movies, I used to watch the, like the teenage horror movies like scream. And I know what you did last summer. I saw those in theaters, but the ring was like the first I want to say, it's like one of the first straight up horror movies that I watched with a big crowd. And it was a ton of fun, the scene in particular. 

So I guess I should set the stage. The plot is that there's mysterious videotape. And when you watch this videotape, you die a week after you watch the tape. That's pretty much what it is. It sounds so stupid when you just say it like that. The scene. I think that when people think about the ring, the most iconic scene from the ring is this girl who climbs out of the TV. But that's, that's actually not the scene that I found the scariest in the ring. 

The scene that I found the scariest is Naomi Watts. And I think it's, her sister are talking about one of the girls who had died from watching this video tape. And then it jumped, cuts to her opening the closet and you see the girl dead in the closet and her face is all twisted and looks super grotesque. And that's what I remember from the ring. And that was like the scariest. It comes out of nowhere. 

Like they're just having this conversation and then jump scare to this girl in the closet. And it just freaked me out. Watched it again, knowing what was going to happen for this episode. And it's still freaked me out. 

Speaker 1 (33m 52s): Yeah, no, the rank of scared me for a while. I would always like, look at corners, scared the girl with her black hair over her face was just sitting there. 

Speaker 0 (34m 2s): So that was my number for the ring from 2002. 

Speaker 1 (34m 6s): My next one is the grudge 

Speaker 2 (34m 13s): I was in that house. <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (34m 43s): And it's not just one particular scene. It's all of the scenes with that creepy kid. And then almost it looks, and then it's like a woman too. But any scene with that creepy face and that sound, it makes I can't, it that's scared me and scarred me for awhile, especially it's. So Sarah, is it Sarah? Sarah, Michelle Gellar when she's showering and those hands come out of her head that I can't shower. 

I am always like thinking what's his hand's going to come out or just anything 

Speaker 0 (35m 24s): To this day. You still haven't showered since then 

Speaker 1 (35m 27s): To this day I don't shower because I'm scared. 

Speaker 0 (35m 31s): Have you seen the new grudge that came out like early this year? What did you think of that grudge? 

Speaker 1 (35m 40s): I didn't really like it. 

Speaker 0 (35m 42s): I heard really bad things. 

Speaker 1 (35m 44s): Yeah. I feel like it was just unnecessary. I liked it better when it was, I think it was set in Tokyo. Yeah. It wasn't Tokyo. Yeah. I preferred it when it was set there instead of here in the U S 

Speaker 0 (35m 60s): So this, the grudge is a, it's like a curse story. So this person gets a curse and it basically locks you into this rage before killing you and moving on. 

Speaker 1 (36m 15s): Yep. It gets wild. Yeah. Know that creature child still makes me cringe. 

Speaker 0 (36m 24s): I did not realize that there were so many grudge movies. There's like three American sequels and then an American remake. And there's like a ton of Japanese SQLs too. 

Speaker 1 (36m 39s): I feel like the Japanese sequels would probably be more worth watching. Those might be scarier. 

Speaker 0 (36m 45s): I watched the original grudge, like the Japanese one and I didn't think it was, I honestly didn't think it was that great. 

Speaker 1 (36m 52s): Oh, well, nevermind. Yeah. Cause even like the grudge too, I saw that it was not great. Cause I don't remember. 

Speaker 0 (37m 0s): Yeah. I guess that's one of the telltale signs. If you watch a horror movie and you can't remember anything from it, probably not great. 

Speaker 1 (37m 6s): Yup. That's that's how I gauge it. If I don't remember it. Wasn't good. 

Speaker 0 (37m 11s): So that was your number for the grudge from 2004. My number three, we're going to go back to the eighties for this one, 1982 twos. The thing by John Carpenter, 

Speaker 1 (37m 26s): Classic 

Speaker 3 (37m 32s): 12 men have just discovered something for 100,000 years. It was buried in the snow and ice. Now we just found a place to live inside where no one can see it or hear it or feel it. I know I'm human. Some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself. It wants to hide inside an imitation, the fight if it has to, but it's vulnerable out in the open. It takes us over and it has no more enemies. 

Nobody left to kill it. And then it's one, you guys don't listen to. Gary can be one of those things. 

Speaker 0 (38m 30s): Yes. So the thing has a ton of really scary moments. This is about a team that is in Antarctica. And while there they find a creature who imitates things, almost like the outsider, but it pops out in various ways and you never really know who is the thing until they start like acting bizarre. 

Oh, there's so many good scenes in the, 

Speaker 1 (39m 3s): There really are. I'm looking at all the pictures and every one of them. 

Speaker 0 (39m 7s): Yeah. There's a lot of, if you're into body horror, there's some grotesque stuff in here. The scene that I'm thinking about though, that scared the shit out of me is a blood test scene. They, they realized that this thing is, Hmm, what's the best way to say this it's affected through blood. So they cut everybody and they collect their blood and they take a hot poker and they put it in the blood. And if the blood is unaffected, then you are not the thing. 

Kurt Russell's playing McCready. And he is testing each of these blood vials. And he finally gets to one. That is the thing. And when he touches the poker to the blood, the blood pops up out of the vial or out of the dish that it's in. And it scared the crap out of me. And then the next scene that follows it is again, some crazy body horror because they've found out who the thing is. Classic horror movie. That is the thing from 1982, there was a, like a prequel that came out in 2011, but I never watched 

Speaker 1 (40m 15s): No, neither have I, I don't think I will. 

Speaker 0 (40m 18s): Yeah. And it's just called the thing as well, which is kind of stupid naming your prequel. The same thing as the, 

Speaker 1 (40m 26s): You know, I might watch it because Christopher, his June he's torment from game of Thrones. I would maybe want to watch it he's in it. But I don't know. It looks too computerized. All of the creatures. 

Speaker 0 (40m 43s): One great thing about the thing is that a lot of my, most of it back in 82 was done practically. And just like you, I like my practical horror effects. They just look so much better. 

Speaker 1 (40m 55s): They do it doesn't look that like it doesn't look as fake as if it's computerized. 

Speaker 0 (41m 1s): Yeah. I like the, the traditional effects with maybe a little bit of CGI enhancement. But when everything is CGI, you just, you can tell. 

Speaker 1 (41m 10s): Yeah, no, it takes away from the movie. 

Speaker 0 (41m 13s): Number three, the thing from 1982, what's your number three. 

Speaker 1 (41m 17s): So Stephen King, dr. Sleep 

Speaker 2 (41m 24s): You're magic. Like me, you're listening to me. Place place only met two or three people like us when I was a kid, I bumped into these things. 

I don't know about magic. I always called it the shining <inaudible> 

Speaker 1 (42m 7s): And it's kind of a couple of scenes that they don't horrify me, but they're pretty like, could be horrifying to some people, I guess it's just more disturbing. So when they have you seen the movie 

Speaker 2 (42m 21s): I have not yet. And I really want to, it's a sequel to the shining. 

Speaker 1 (42m 26s): Yeah, it was. I liked it. So there's these creatures in this movie and they use steam to like give them life and like rejuvenate them. So they're stabbing this little boy and I saw it in theaters. They were not playing. They showed you if it was so bad, like it was pretty hard. Like it was a pretty traumatizing, but then they go back to the overlook hotel later and you see that big pool of blood, again, like you see in the shining, which was really cool. 

And I loved that at the elevator. And then there, I think this was my favorite scene is they're back at the hotel. You'll see all of the ghosts again. And they're gonna come after someone which was really satisfying, but like, you'll see like the ghosts throughout the hotel when they're going through it, which was pretty cool with the twins. 

And then it just gives you some flashbacks to the shining throughout the whole movie, which is really cool. 

Speaker 2 (43m 38s): Dr. Sleep that's from 2019. 

Speaker 1 (43m 41s): Yes. So not old. Just last year. 

Speaker 2 (43m 45s): My number two is from 1980. This is the oldest one on my list. It is from the very first Friday, the 13th <inaudible> 

Speaker 3 (44m 35s): We weren't doing anything. We were just mentioning four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, Friday the 13th. 

You may only see it once. 

Speaker 0 (45m 52s): So Friday the 13th, obviously iconic horror franchise and one of the most recognizable horror villains of all time, Jason Vorhees, everybody knows the mask. Now the very first movie was a different killer. And the very first movie was his mother that was killing people at the camp. And have you seen this recently? No, it's been awhile, but now I'm gonna have to rewatch it. 

So it's kind of, I mean, it's, it's all right. But as a slasher movie, like it's, it's just kind of the formula, right. There's inventive kills, but nothing's really scary to me anyway. It feels really cheesy, but they're classics. Yeah. But there's a scene at the end that it like really, really freaked me out. The main girl, the last, the final girl she survives, you know, and she is in a boat. 

So she goes into crystal Lake in this boat because the mom, Pamela Vorhees is dead and she's just waiting for the cops to show up. And the cops show up and the music starts like the movie's over. And you're about to see the credits roll and like it lingers on her for a really long time. So all you're waiting for are the credits to start scrolling up from the bottom of the screen. And this young Jason Vorhees pops out of the water, grabs her out of the, brings her down into the water. 

And then it cuts to like her in a mental hospital. And it was, or not a mental hospital or a regular hospital cuts to her in a hospital. And it is, it was so out of left field. For me, it scared the crap out of me. I watched it with my wife, Jackie, and she jumped out of the bed and yeah, I can picture her. Yeah. And she's not a horror movie fan at all, but she was watching it the same way. Like, Oh, this is corny. This is cheesy. This is even scary. 

And then that scene happened and she literally jumped. That is, yeah. It's one of the classic jump scares the original Friday, the 13th from 1980. 

Speaker 1 (48m 14s): So my next one, these to me, they're not scary, but I really love these scenes. It's from it. And then it, chapter two, 

Speaker 2 (48m 27s): When you're a kid, first of all, is around you think that you'll always be protected and cared for. Then one day you realize that's not true because when you're alone as a kid, the monster see you is weaker. 

You don't even know they're getting closer till it's too late. 

Speaker 1 (49m 15s): And I am notorious for watching these movies all the time. I fall asleep to them. So they're not scared. They're not scary to me. But my favorite from the first it is one Pennywise is coming out of the fringe and he kind of does a little dance towards Eddie. It's. I mean, it's not scary. It's just, it's creepy. But I love that scene. And then from it, chapter two, this one was just, it was pretty funny, but it was also pretty disturbing. 

So when Eddie has his flashback to the pharmacy and he sees his mom and he sees that leper, just the leper in general from the first one. And then chapter two is just cringy. I like that flashback. But the best part to me is when Eddie like pulls the sheet and then season that thing. And then the leopard jumps out at him. And this is what gets me is when he starts choking him. 

And he gets so pumped that he's killing this leper. And then the leper just puked all over that, that scene is 10 out of 10. It's so funny. And then just the way he runs out of the pharmacy after, I mean, I guess to some people, it could be scary, but it, to me is just not scary 

Speaker 0 (50m 45s): Was one of the most fun times I had at the theater when it came out. Yeah. It was so funny. Have you ever seen the original it? 

Speaker 1 (50m 53s): Yeah. And it was pretty boring. I'm not going to lie. 

Speaker 0 (50m 58s): I hated the original it and I was not really excited for the remake. And I loved the remix. 

Speaker 1 (51m 5s): Those two movies are one of my favorite movies. Like people think I'm insane for falling asleep to this, to either of those movies. But I love them. Like, they're not, they're not scary to me. They're so good. 

Speaker 0 (51m 19s): Well, they, they are scarier than like stranger things, but they have the same type of vibe as stranger things, which I think is kinda neat. 

Speaker 1 (51m 26s): Like the kids are so funny. 

Speaker 0 (51m 28s): Yeah. They definitely have a amazing chemistry. 

Speaker 1 (51m 31s): <inaudible> they're so they're so cute, but I love those movies and I mean, they're in the horror genre, but they're definitely just scenes that I just really enjoy. 

Speaker 0 (51m 42s): My number one is from Ari Aster. It's called hereditary. 

Speaker 3 (52m 5s): It's heartening to see so many strange new faces here today. I know my mom would be very touched and probably a little suspicious. My mother was a very secretive and private woman. It's grandma, you know, you were her favorite, right? Even when you were a little baby, she would let me feed you because she needed to feed you. She was a very difficult woman pitch. Maybe explains me. 

I recognize you from your mother. What? Sometimes I swear I can feel them in the room. 

Speaker 1 (52m 45s): No, that's a good one. 

Speaker 0 (52m 48s): Put so many scenes from hereditary on this list. But the scariest one to me is a scene where her son wakes up and he walks downstairs and he sees a body on the ground and he's looking at the body and the camera's focused on him looking at the body. And the first time I saw this, I didn't even notice it. The upper left hand corner near the roof is his mom. 

Speaker 1 (53m 21s): Oh 

Speaker 0 (53m 23s): Yes. And she's just pinned up against the roof in the background and you don't even see it. And then like all of a sudden, you know, you see her in focus and then it zooms back out of focus. He looks away, he looks back and she's gone. And she comes out of a different shadow and starts chasing him through the house. It was fucking terrifying. And I watched this in a theater with, with my best friend and like a good crowd and the whole place, like it was so silent, you could hear a pin drop and then everybody just jumps up. 

Like, Holy shit. It was that whole movie. Hereditary is crazy. And I, I talk about hereditary a lot because it is one of those movies that just like has so many scenes that stick with you. But that was definitely the scariest scene in hereditary. That's 2018. 

Speaker 1 (54m 17s): Yeah. That movie was pretty twisted. It didn't really scare me, but that scene was pretty disturbing, but that, I feel like that movie all around was just disturbing. 

Speaker 0 (54m 26s): Oh, a hundred percent. It's have you seen his followup? Mid-summer 

Speaker 1 (54m 32s): Well, I'm kind of avoiding it because I don't know if I want to watch it. 

Speaker 0 (54m 36s): Oh, if you decide, if you say, you know, a tender is the day I'm going to watch Midsummer come over and watch it at my house. 

Speaker 1 (54m 42s): No, you guys have a good system there. I've seen bits and pieces and I've seen like clips from YouTube and I'm like a little cringy. Like some of the stuff like just uncomfortable. 

Speaker 0 (54m 53s): Oh, it's a hundred percent uncomfortable. And it's made to me, it's made even more uncomfortable because it's set in the daytime in the light. Like you don't have anything hiding in shadows. Everything is in plain sight and it's insane. 

Speaker 1 (55m 7s): But I do like the main girl. I like her. She's fantastic in it. Yeah. She's really good. I mean, I've only seen her in what's a movie fighting with family. Oh yeah, yeah. That one was, I liked that movie. I liked her. She's badass. 

Speaker 0 (55m 26s): She's about to be in the Marvel black widow film as well. 

Speaker 1 (55m 30s): Yeah. I saw that and I was pretty stoked. 

Speaker 0 (55m 33s): Yeah. She's great. She's going to be, you're going to see her win an Oscar someday. 

Speaker 1 (55m 37s): I like her. She's really good. Really good. What's your number one? So mine is from 2013, the conjuring 

Speaker 0 (55m 49s): To cellar where the doors just opened on its own. 

Speaker 2 (55m 51s): They gave us a sign that you want to communicate with us. 

Speaker 0 (56m 3s): What are you guys? What we've been called? Ghost hunters. Paranormal researchers 

Speaker 1 (56m 6s): Prefer to be known simply as ed and Lorraine, Warren 

Speaker 2 (56m 9s): <inaudible>. There's someone here that would like to talk to you. There's something horrible happening in my house. 

Speaker 1 (56m 31s): I mean, most of the movie is pretty like scary, but the scariest part that really like had me jumped back was when the mom, Carolyn, when she was possessed and they had her at the chair or tied to the chair and she straight broke through the blanket. And when she shoved her crazy looking face out, that freaked me out. And then when she was crawling in the, I think she was like crawling in the walls, trying to get to one of her kids that just that whole scene freaked me out. 

I was literally like, I was sitting so close to one of my cousins when we watched that at a friend's house. That movie, it got me not one. I think that's one of the scarier movies. I feel like the newer, the conjuring two was kind of scary, but I feel like the first conjuring hands down is the scariest 

Speaker 0 (57m 30s): Kind of get that insidious sinister. I get them all kind of mixed up in my head 

Speaker 1 (57m 34s): Because they have the same guy that, that guy, Patrick Wilson. He's an <inaudible>. But I like those movies. It's pretty cool with ed and Lorraine Warren. They're a cool couple, but yeah, the conjuring 10 out of 10 made me scared. 

Speaker 0 (57m 53s): Very cool. So that was your number one, running back through my list and you can do the same after me. So my list from five to one, I had the I from 2002, I had the ring, the thing Friday, the 13th and hereditary. 

Speaker 1 (58m 10s): So the Exorcist, the grudge, dr. Sleep it and chapter two and the conjuring. 

Speaker 0 (58m 18s): Did you have any that were, that almost made your list? 

Speaker 1 (58m 22s): That was pretty much it, but I had thought about the ring. So, and I was choosing between the ring and the grudge, cause they were both like kind of similar to me. 

Speaker 0 (58m 30s): So I almost put insidious on my list. It was on my list until like very last moment, specifically the scene where she there's a girl telling him about a dream she had about their kid. And he turns around like the camera pans back to him and the demons standing right behind him for a second, that freaked me out. 

Speaker 1 (58m 53s): That demon was scary and they had a lot of good jump scares in those movies. 

Speaker 0 (58m 57s): Sinister almost made my list. 

Speaker 1 (58m 60s): The movie was missed. That was a good movie. I forgot about that. Yeah. 

Speaker 0 (59m 5s): Poltergeist almost made my list. 

Speaker 1 (59m 7s): Oh, that's a classic. 

Speaker 0 (59m 9s): Yeah. The scene with the clown that I'm sure everybody knows now, or this back in the eighties, clowns are just an acceptable decoration for a kid's room, 

Speaker 1 (59m 19s): Honestly. No, just, I can't imagine anyone thinking. That's a good idea. Now, at least 

Speaker 0 (59m 26s): With the, with how popular it is. Probably it never will be again. 

Speaker 1 (59m 32s): No, I have, I got one of the posters. It was on the best buy display. Well, I got the whole movie display for it, chapter tail, and I have cut it off a little bit, but I have like his eye and it's in my closet. 

Speaker 0 (59m 49s): Yes, you are a little demented, I guess. 

Speaker 1 (59m 52s): I know. I know my poor mom. She hates it. 

Speaker 0 (59m 57s): Cool. Hey, I had a ton of fun having you on here and thanks for this list topic because I really enjoyed looking these up and revisiting some of those classics that scared the shit out of me. 

Speaker 1 (1h 0m 10s): Well, thanks for having me. I love horror movies. 

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